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Are the Phillies a dynasty if they win the 2011 World Series?


What IS a dynasty?
In my humble opinion, a dynasty is:
1. A team who wins back to back championships while displaying overall excellence over a number of years in their respective sport.
2. Winning three or more championships over a six to eight year span.

The Philadelphia Phillies came close to number one in 2009, but came up just a little short. While dynasties seem to come with more regularity in the American League (the Yankees, the 1970’s A’s), the 1922-23 New York Giants and the 1975-76 Reds are the only two National League teams to The Big Red Machine in 1976. L to R: George Foster, Ceasar Geronimo, Ken Griffey Sr.,Pete Rose, Dave Concepcion,Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Johnny Bench. Photo: pages.prodigy.netaccomplish this feat in the last 90 years, making an NL repeat much more impressive. The Big Red Machine's dominance throughout the early to mid seventies should also be taken into account here (the team won five division titles and appeared in two other World Series in 1970 and 1972).

In the NBA, Larry Bird’s Celtics won three titles in a six year span in the 1980’s. One Philly team or another has fallen victim to the New England Patriots, New Jersey Devils, Detriot Red Wings, Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Cowboys’ success over the last two decades. All those teams were absolutely dominant, and won multiple titles over several years.

Which brings me to the million dollar question:

If the Phils win the 2011 Fall Classic, are they considered a dynasty?

Although the Phillies won a championship as recently as 2008 and the team is on their way to their fifth consecutive NL East title, they wouldn’t completely fall under the above criteria.
Four Aces photo: Levon Biss, New York Times
However (and no, it’s not just because I’m a Phillies fan), do you take into account the sheer dominance of this year's Phillies team?

After all, baseball insiders are heralding the Phillies starting trio of Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, and Cole Hamels amongst the greatest of all time. The top three Cy Young Award this year might come down to three teammates.

That speaks volumes. The team is on pace to win 106 games, the most in franchise history and the most in the NL since the 1998 Braves matched the same victory total. If their post season is one for the ages, do you take these factors into consideration?

Oddly enough, Chipper Jones declared these Phillies teams just as good as any of the late 90’s Yankees teams.  I’ve personally never been a Jones fan, but that speaks volumes coming from a player of Jones’ caliber.

It’s certainly an interesting topic for debate, and there’s a lot more baseball left to play until October, so we shall see.

What do you think?


Contact Joe Vallee at Jvallee@philly2philly.com

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